Text Transcript: The Tout Mixed Draft Live Blog

Hosted by Jason Collette. This isn’t the prettiest presentation, but it’s easy to search.

[Mar 10 2013, 5:19 PM] toutwars: The live chat will begin at 5:30pm on March 11!
[Mar 10 2013, 6:58 PM] Tim Vermeulen: EST, I presume?
[Mar 10 2013, 9:40 PM] Jason Collette: you presume correctly
[Mar 11 2013, 7:34 PM] Scott Gilroy: Go Tim Mcloud!!
[Mar 11 2013, 9:50 PM] SiberianJay: Tim McLeod’s barmy army are here!
[Mar 11 2013, 9:50 PM] Scott Gilroy: Evening fellas
[Mar 11 2013, 9:50 PM] JeffErickson: Greetings everyone.
[Mar 11 2013, 9:52 PM] Scott Gilroy: Is Sirius Fantasy sports radio covering the draft?
[Mar 11 2013, 9:52 PM] Jason Collette: The radio is covering the 1st 2 hours
[Mar 11 2013, 9:52 PM] JeffErickson: Thanks to all the touts drafting, and everyone hear to check out the results. We hope this league takes off like the three live drafts.
[Mar 11 2013, 9:56 PM] Scott Gilroy: The winner of this league could get a shot at one of the Live auction leagues the next season. Make it a battle to move up
[Mar 11 2013, 9:57 PM] Jason Collette: and with that win comes the costs of travel to NYC 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 9:58 PM] JeffErickson: We dabbled with the idea of “relegation” in the past. The only problem is that the concept of hierarchy within the leagues really isn’t there. Some people prefer Mixed, some prefer AL-only because they’ve done it for x number of years.
[Mar 11 2013, 9:58 PM] Scott Gilroy: they can share a room with you
[Mar 11 2013, 9:59 PM] Josh Kay: nothing better than following the Tout Wars draft while listening to old episodes of Towers of Power Fantasy Hour podcast
[Mar 11 2013, 9:59 PM] Jason Collette: ^^^^^^
[Mar 11 2013, 9:59 PM] JeffErickson: Blatant kiss-up to the moderator….
[Mar 11 2013, 10:00 PM] Jason Collette: this is very much encouraged 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 10:01 PM] Josh Kay: didn’t even know Jason was the moderator heh
[Mar 11 2013, 10:02 PM] JeffErickson: One thing I like about this draft is that there’s only two people in the league that I’ve drafted with this year – good to see some varying values/strategies.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:03 PM] toutwars: The drafters are champing at their bits.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:04 PM] Jason Collette: Podhorzer & Greco back to back as well as Ambrosius & Kessenich should be fun to watch play out. If only to have the audio for that…
[Mar 11 2013, 10:06 PM] Jason Collette: it would have been even better had Engel been slotted in front of Greco after the trash those 2 talked on air this morning
[Mar 11 2013, 10:07 PM] JeffErickson: I didn’t catch that – that whole three hour time zone difference …
[Mar 11 2013, 10:07 PM] Jason Collette: tell me about it…recorded the podcast last night with that insomniac Sporer & Doug Thorburn who lives out your way. We went past midnight and I nearly fell asleep while they had more in them
[Mar 11 2013, 10:08 PM] AdamScott451: do you think a top 3 pick is a huge advantage this year
[Mar 11 2013, 10:08 PM] Jason Collette: I think picking top 4 is fine – the next 4 after that could go any combination of ways
[Mar 11 2013, 10:08 PM] JeffErickson: Less so in a 15-team league than in a smaller league.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:09 PM] Josh Kay: Scott Engel is in my FSWA league. is it possible to follow which players he bids on as well?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:09 PM] Jason Collette: no bids, just picks
[Mar 11 2013, 10:09 PM] Josh Kay: darn. haha
[Mar 11 2013, 10:09 PM] Jason Collette: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsAa9oCjuqbwdEZSZnVVRTZ5U05lUlVLQ1dHYnBNZmc&usp=sharing#gid=0 is the online worksheet
[Mar 11 2013, 10:09 PM] JeffErickson: Yes, this is a snake draft; the live drafts in NY will be auctions.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:09 PM] AdamScott451: im guessing cano is the 4th guy?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:10 PM] JeffErickson: Depends upon who is drafting – could even be the 3rd, and I’ve seen him as late as 9th
[Mar 11 2013, 10:10 PM] JeffErickson: though the latter was an aberration, I think.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:10 PM] Jason Collette: Cano’s current NFBC ADP range is 3 to 8
[Mar 11 2013, 10:11 PM] Jason Collette: most volatile guy in the top 15 has been Hamilton who has gone anywhere from 6 to 30
[Mar 11 2013, 10:11 PM] Josh Kay: dislike value of Cano at 4, been starting to agree with Paul Sporer about the sneaky depth of 2B
[Mar 11 2013, 10:11 PM] bbeezy5: Any chat rules?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:11 PM] lawrm: be nice
[Mar 11 2013, 10:11 PM] Jason Collette: Suck up to the mods
[Mar 11 2013, 10:11 PM] IanKahn: Colette, you are good
[Mar 11 2013, 10:11 PM] Josh Kay: yeah, i did that without even trying -_-
[Mar 11 2013, 10:11 PM] Whitestar02: Send the Mods some homemade cookies
[Mar 11 2013, 10:11 PM] IanKahn: too much
[Mar 11 2013, 10:12 PM] sixerfan2012: the rays are the best!(not really tho)
[Mar 11 2013, 10:12 PM] Josh Kay: Jason, when is the SP podcast coming up?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:12 PM] Jason Collette: SP podcast part 1 was posted today: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=19855 – Part 2 is recording in a few days
[Mar 11 2013, 10:13 PM] Josh Kay: oooooooooh. nicee
[Mar 11 2013, 10:13 PM] Josh Kay: both parts are 3 hours i hope?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:13 PM] Josh Kay: 2 hrs 40 min. i’ll take it. haha.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:13 PM] Jason Collette: somehow, each of the past 2 have been exactly 2:39:00; I’m sure we’ll get there with the rest of the SP list. We ended with Matt Harvey last night & that’s our half way point.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:14 PM] IanKahn: I am excited to see what Tim McLeod does with his team. Good player.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:15 PM] Josh Kay: sucking up Ian.. i listen to that podcast, we all know you and Tim have a extensive trading history and friendship 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 10:15 PM] IanKahn: Nope
[Mar 11 2013, 10:15 PM] IanKahn: hate that dude
[Mar 11 2013, 10:15 PM] Josh Kay: enjoyed that episode btw… when you went on. good stuff
[Mar 11 2013, 10:15 PM] IanKahn: Thanks Josh
[Mar 11 2013, 10:15 PM] bbeezy5: Jason did you your league draft position for Rotowire NFBC draft?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:15 PM] Jason Collette: I don’t know what spot I’m drafting in yet. I am in the league this Friday night at 9p
[Mar 11 2013, 10:16 PM] IanKahn: You are good Collette.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:16 PM] IanKahn: Still no cookies
[Mar 11 2013, 10:17 PM] JeffErickson: I’m drafting seventh in my league on Sunday. Blech.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:17 PM] IanKahn: Maybe Kemp
[Mar 11 2013, 10:17 PM] AdamScott451: I have 7th pick in my main league too
[Mar 11 2013, 10:17 PM] Josh Kay: as a fellow Rays fan myself, Jason will always have a special place in my mind, as seemingly the only other big time Jeremy Hellickson supporter other than myself
[Mar 11 2013, 10:18 PM] IanKahn: 7th IS tough
[Mar 11 2013, 10:18 PM] Jason Collette: can he become the 1st pitcher ever to strand at least 80% of his runners in 3 consecutive seasons?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:18 PM] JeffErickson: I’m getting cold feet on Kemp; don’t think he’ll be there, but I don’t know if I’ll take him if he is there.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:18 PM] IanKahn: Is he just far better from the stretch Jason? If so, would he ever considering pitching that way all the time?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:19 PM] AdamScott451: who do you want with the 7th, i am looking at pujols or cargo. assume top 3 then cano and kemp go top 5
[Mar 11 2013, 10:19 PM] Josh Kay: i looked into things a bit, and Hellickson’s called strike rate jumped from 10% in 2011 to 27% in 2012… increased command?.. good sign
[Mar 11 2013, 10:19 PM] IanKahn: Kemp looks healthy, and last year he was a top 3 pick consistently. Huge talent
[Mar 11 2013, 10:19 PM] JeffErickson: Not sure if he’ll run, though.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:20 PM] Jason Collette: yes, Hellickson is a better guy from the stretch
[Mar 11 2013, 10:20 PM] JeffErickson: Right now now I’m looking at Bautista, Cargo, McCutchen, Votto, Pujols – assuming Kemp & Cano are gone.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:20 PM] Josh Kay: he won’t. 10-15 SB is likely his ceiling..
[Mar 11 2013, 10:20 PM] IanKahn: not 50… but 25. He loves that part of the game. The leg problems are why he MIGHT be there at 7
[Mar 11 2013, 10:21 PM] Josh Kay: Bautista seems to be climbing draft boards faster and faster
[Mar 11 2013, 10:21 PM] AdamScott451: yeah i have that narrowed down to pujols and cargo. mccutchen scares me the most, and votto just seems like he’s going to be a 25-30 hr guy whereas pujols and fielder can hit 40
[Mar 11 2013, 10:22 PM] JeffErickson: Fielder might not hit 40 in that park, though
[Mar 11 2013, 10:22 PM] JeffErickson: there’s a reason to get concerned about anyone, though
[Mar 11 2013, 10:22 PM] AdamScott451: yeah i dont think he will either
[Mar 11 2013, 10:22 PM] AdamScott451: yep
[Mar 11 2013, 10:23 PM] Jason Collette: Honestly, Stanton is the only guy I can feel confident in predicting 40 HRs for
[Mar 11 2013, 10:23 PM] Ronnie Nichols: Last year Pujols sees the 1st round?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:23 PM] Jason Collette: and the draft begins….Miguel Cabrera goes #1
[Mar 11 2013, 10:23 PM] Josh Kay: but Jeff.. Prince has even greater lineup protection around him this year.. surely he’ll hit 50 and .310 BA.. (snarky sarcastic tone)
[Mar 11 2013, 10:23 PM] AdamScott451: is sirius broadcasting this
[Mar 11 2013, 10:24 PM] Jason Collette: Trout goes #2, Ryan Braun #3, Robbie Cano #4, McCutchen #5
[Mar 11 2013, 10:24 PM] Jason Collette: Yes, radio is following it but no live audio
[Mar 11 2013, 10:24 PM] Josh Kay: Kemp sliding to 6.. wow
[Mar 11 2013, 10:24 PM] JeffErickson: First two hours, yes.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:24 PM] Jason Collette: draft lining up very well with LABR so far
[Mar 11 2013, 10:24 PM] Josh Kay: should be interesting to see how high Reyes is taken.. i bet Tim takes him at the swing , but i doubt he falls to him
[Mar 11 2013, 10:24 PM] Shawn Hansen: whoever is editing the spreadhsheet missed trout
[Mar 11 2013, 10:25 PM] Jason Collette: if you’d like to compare the results to mixed LABR, those are at http://www.rtsports.com/LABR-Mixed-Draft
[Mar 11 2013, 10:25 PM] Jason Collette: CarGo #10 to Wiegert, Harper 11th to Captain Hook, and Stanton 12th to Guilfoyle
[Mar 11 2013, 10:26 PM] Shawn Hansen: wow. when did harper become a top 12 pick?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:26 PM] JeffErickson: Harper has so much helium right now.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:26 PM] JeffErickson: And I don’t mind.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:26 PM] Jason Collette: some crazy idiots took Harper 14th overall in LABR
[Mar 11 2013, 10:26 PM] Shawn Hansen: I love harper and all, but a first round pick? yikes
[Mar 11 2013, 10:27 PM] Josh Kay: i mean that’s not outlandish… just leaves zero profitability
[Mar 11 2013, 10:27 PM] Jason Collette: 1st round ends with Tulo, J-Upton, and Bautista
[Mar 11 2013, 10:27 PM] JeffErickson: That’s the Zola Rebuttal
[Mar 11 2013, 10:27 PM] Josh Kay: yeah
[Mar 11 2013, 10:28 PM] IanKahn: This is fun
[Mar 11 2013, 10:28 PM] AdamScott451: i dont think i can deal with tulo ever again after last year… i still have nightmares
[Mar 11 2013, 10:28 PM] Jason Collette: Heyward, Reyes, Longoria, Hanley open up the 2nd round. Longoria early 2nd predicates on him not missing time, which is a big IF in my book
[Mar 11 2013, 10:29 PM] JeffErickson: And him running. And him keeping the BA up.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:29 PM] Josh Kay: i think that’s the Rays fan pessimism in you that i share as well Jason..
[Mar 11 2013, 10:29 PM] Jason Collette: 1st pitcher off the board with Verlander going 20th overall
[Mar 11 2013, 10:29 PM] Josh Kay: right.. early 2nd round.. doesn’t that assume he’ll steal 15 bases Jeff?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:29 PM] Jason Collette: I think Longoria stealing double digit bags is over
[Mar 11 2013, 10:29 PM] AdamScott451: would you rather have beltre or longoria
[Mar 11 2013, 10:29 PM] Josh Kay: precisely.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:29 PM] Jason Collette: I’d rather have Beltre, but Beltre went before Paul & I took Longo in LABR
[Mar 11 2013, 10:30 PM] JeffErickson: I’d rather Beltre by at least a round
[Mar 11 2013, 10:30 PM] Jason Collette: Kershaw becomes 2nd pitcher off the board at 23 and Stras joins him at 25
[Mar 11 2013, 10:30 PM] Josh Kay: if Longo reaches double digit steals (15 or so).. its Longo, but Beltre is just so darn solid and consistent
[Mar 11 2013, 10:30 PM] Jason Collette: Adam Jones at 26 – still can’t wrap my head around him being a top 30 guy
[Mar 11 2013, 10:30 PM] JeffErickson: I would take Wright before Longo.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:31 PM] Josh Kay: Beltre keeps getting discounted in some drafts because people enjoy spouting off about the lineup protection myth
[Mar 11 2013, 10:31 PM] Jason Collette: My boy E5 goes 27th overall…26 spots too low for me
[Mar 11 2013, 10:31 PM] IanKahn: thats funny
[Mar 11 2013, 10:32 PM] Jason Collette: I’d legally marry E5 if Florida permitted me to do so…it’s guy love
[Mar 11 2013, 10:32 PM] JeffErickson: Bigamy isn’t allowed in Florida still, though.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:32 PM] Josh Kay: thought: Brett Lawrie hits the D-L this year because he’s Brett Lawrie, E5 re-gains 3B eligibility… top 5 player next year?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:32 PM] AdamScott451: beltre has a history of hammy issues too though… felt like last year he was constantly battling something. not that it stoppepd him from mashing
[Mar 11 2013, 10:32 PM] Jason Collette: Jay Bruce 29th..his NFBC range is anywhere from 25 to 62. That’s crazy range
[Mar 11 2013, 10:32 PM] Jason Collette: If you love E5, you don’t want him ever playing 3B again
[Mar 11 2013, 10:33 PM] lawrm: ?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:33 PM] Josh Kay: well i mean i don’t care about how atrocious he is defensivel
[Mar 11 2013, 10:33 PM] IanKahn: good point
[Mar 11 2013, 10:33 PM] JeffErickson: Best valuation of Posey that I’ve seen yet.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:33 PM] lawrm: oops. question is is bruce a new adam dunn?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:33 PM] Jason Collette: Buster Posey goes 30th overall….and he’s been a 1st rounder in a lot of other drafts/mocks
[Mar 11 2013, 10:33 PM] Jason Collette: agreed, Jeff
[Mar 11 2013, 10:34 PM] Josh Kay: i think Bruce can hit for average… his strikeout rate isn’t large enough
[Mar 11 2013, 10:34 PM] Jason Collette: Cespedes 34th seems to be a mortal lock in drafts. I remember paying $15 for him last year on a complete flyer in AL Tout
[Mar 11 2013, 10:34 PM] Josh Kay: Hard Hit Ball rates were incredible last season, and he showed stretches with a contact rate of 80% or so
[Mar 11 2013, 10:34 PM] Jason Collette: Hamilton goes at 36, one pick lower than his LABR spot that many where aghast at
[Mar 11 2013, 10:34 PM] lawrm: sometimes dunn hit for average and was always a solid on-base guy. well till two years ago he was. he was also on a 500 hr pace
[Mar 11 2013, 10:35 PM] JeffErickson: I’ll be a dissenter on Cespedes; if we’re going to discount others on various hammy/groin strains, I think he has to receive that treatment as well.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:35 PM] IanKahn: E5 has trouble when he is playing third. His nickname is E5. He spends too uch mental energy… However at First he can just relax and hit bombs. Yes Jason?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:35 PM] Josh Kay: not sure Bruce is bad enough against lefties for that comp Lawr, but i always respect your opinions, so it’s an interesting point raised nonetheless
[Mar 11 2013, 10:35 PM] Jason Collette: Cespedes definitely should come with a warning label
[Mar 11 2013, 10:35 PM] JeffErickson: 13 HR’s for Bruce against LH’s each of the last two years.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:35 PM] lawrm: dunn still has a careet .373 OBP
[Mar 11 2013, 10:36 PM] AdamScott451: what do you make of adrian gonzalez
[Mar 11 2013, 10:36 PM] JeffErickson: I could make a hat, a brooch, a pteradactyl
[Mar 11 2013, 10:36 PM] Josh Kay: right Jeff
[Mar 11 2013, 10:36 PM] Josh Kay: LMAO JEFF
[Mar 11 2013, 10:36 PM] Josh Kay: ahahahahhahahahaha…
[Mar 11 2013, 10:36 PM] lawrm: jeff IS a funny guy!
[Mar 11 2013, 10:36 PM] Jason Collette: Dunn scares me…he went $13 in our AL draft last season – not sure he gets back there this year
[Mar 11 2013, 10:36 PM] Josh Kay: even with the switch to OBP jason?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:37 PM] Whitestar02: You like Gladiator movies Jeff?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:37 PM] bbeezy5: How much did he earn, Dunn?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:37 PM] Josh Kay: Jeff you ever been in a Turkish prison?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:37 PM] JeffErickson: nice
[Mar 11 2013, 10:37 PM] Jason Collette: even with the switch
[Mar 11 2013, 10:37 PM] Jason Collette: Allen Craig at 42 is clear evidence Paul Sporer is not in this draft
[Mar 11 2013, 10:38 PM] Josh Kay: wow, Paul is going to rant about that all week
[Mar 11 2013, 10:38 PM] JeffErickson: And Paul Goldschmidt at 41 is clear evidence that Grey was a little bummed out at #45
[Mar 11 2013, 10:38 PM] AdamScott451: one guys team is tulo-longo-ellsbury, good luck bro
[Mar 11 2013, 10:38 PM] Josh Kay: that live reading of that trade a couple episodes ago Jason was comedy gold haha.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:38 PM] Josh Kay: the Wilin Rosario + Cishek for Craig trade
[Mar 11 2013, 10:39 PM] IanKahn: Is that considered too high for Allen Craig? I hear such wild differences.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:39 PM] Josh Kay: Jason, Flowers just said on twitter he’d rather have Adam Jones than E5… that should ruffle your feathers a bit eh?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:39 PM] Jason Collette: Jacoby Ellsbury is DTM. Every year I declare that, he has a great year so draft with confidence fellas
[Mar 11 2013, 10:39 PM] JeffErickson: I have Craig and Goldy higher than where they went, fwiw
[Mar 11 2013, 10:39 PM] Jason Collette: Now Ray Flowers is dead to me
[Mar 11 2013, 10:39 PM] Josh Kay: hahahahaha..
[Mar 11 2013, 10:39 PM] lawrm: I am not so much defending Dunn as noting Bruce is not as good of an on-base guy at this juncture.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:39 PM] lawrm: and, similar power
[Mar 11 2013, 10:40 PM] IanKahn: Jeff, you have those two in your top 40?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:40 PM] Jason Collette: Hamels 38, Lee at 44, Cain 48, Darvish 49, Weaver 50. Not bad
[Mar 11 2013, 10:40 PM] lawrm: I just wonder what makes some guys darlings, and others worthy of scorn?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:40 PM] Jason Collette: Ellsbury is worth my scorn because he’s burned me 2x with bad injuries
[Mar 11 2013, 10:40 PM] JeffErickson: Ian – Goldy 28, Craig 38 for me
[Mar 11 2013, 10:41 PM] Jason Collette: I’m dogmatic with him, almost to a fault
[Mar 11 2013, 10:41 PM] Josh Kay: just mentioned you in his tweet Jason, haha..
[Mar 11 2013, 10:41 PM] Josh Kay: there’s the evidence
[Mar 11 2013, 10:41 PM] lawrm: I don’t understand “dogmatic” with him?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:42 PM] Jason Collette: I don’t want Ellsbury anywhere near my roster this year…I have irrational hate for what he did to my teams last year 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 10:42 PM] lawrm: does it mean I knocked out your power cable?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:42 PM] Jason Collette: Desmond Jennings at 54 – do not like
[Mar 11 2013, 10:42 PM] Josh Kay: Thought: Carlos Gomez = Desmond Jennings but like 5 rounds later
[Mar 11 2013, 10:42 PM] Jason Collette: Lawr, even though you’ve 2x knocked out my power cable, you’re still behind Ellsbury on the hate list
[Mar 11 2013, 10:43 PM] lawrm: whew…
[Mar 11 2013, 10:43 PM] Josh Kay: Jason, that wasn’t Ellsbury, it was the Baseball gods shunning you for putting so much faith in a Boston Red Sox player
[Mar 11 2013, 10:43 PM] Jason Collette: Gomez is still a hacker but has put up the numbers people think Jennings is putting up. Jennings is never going to hit 20 HRs in that park and if he doesn’t learn to lay off the high heat, he’s not going to be on base at a 35% clip to maximize his SB abilities
[Mar 11 2013, 10:43 PM] Josh Kay: that’s like a violation of law as a Rays fan
[Mar 11 2013, 10:44 PM] Josh Kay: Jennings + SBO% +an increase in walk rate = 50 steals.. but without an improved plate approach, i completely agree
[Mar 11 2013, 10:44 PM] Jason Collette: Jason Kipnis closes out round 4 preceded by YoGa, Santana, Bumgarner, and Desmond
[Mar 11 2013, 10:44 PM] sixerfan2012: lorenzo cain or jennings? for where they are going
[Mar 11 2013, 10:44 PM] Jason Collette: Jennings has a weak spot on high heat. He’ll run into a high fastball 1-2x a months and it’s like a fix for him that he has to sell out his skills to do it again
[Mar 11 2013, 10:45 PM] Scott Gilroy: It appears Podhorzer’s 3rd rd pick is missing or is it just me?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:45 PM] JeffErickson: It’s Holliday
[Mar 11 2013, 10:45 PM] Jason Collette: go watch the highlights of August 3rd when he took Tommy Hunter deep on high heat. In all fairness, who in MLB hasn’t hit a HR off Hunter at this point?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:45 PM] Scott Gilroy: nm
[Mar 11 2013, 10:46 PM] Josh Kay: because its a fun discussion.. can we talk about Scott Kazmir and the reports?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:46 PM] Jason Collette: Kimbrel’s ADP is 48 at NFBC and he went 62nd to McLeod who gets a lot of K’s with Price & Kimbrel on board
[Mar 11 2013, 10:46 PM] Josh Kay: Jason im sure you’re at least mildly intrigued.. given what he did here in Tampa.. no?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:46 PM] Jason Collette: if Kazmir is off the weed and focused on baseball again, good for him
[Mar 11 2013, 10:46 PM] Josh Kay: you wont touch him though?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:47 PM] Jason Collette: I would throw $1 at Kazmir in AL
[Mar 11 2013, 10:47 PM] JeffErickson: Going to hold you to that in two weeks
[Mar 11 2013, 10:48 PM] Josh Kay: im pretty intrigued honestly, skills dont go away, obviously arm speed, velocity and the like do however.. Not thatt many miles on his arm are there?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:48 PM] AdamScott451: do you believe in ian desmond
[Mar 11 2013, 10:48 PM] Josh Kay: 20/20 adam, dont expect a BA repeat
[Mar 11 2013, 10:48 PM] nymet: kazmir avg speed up 10mph this spring over last 2 years
[Mar 11 2013, 10:49 PM] Jason Collette: Kazmir just needs to have his slider back and maintain it. If he is just 90-92 & a change-up again, it’s not going to last. LOVED him before he lost his focus on the game
[Mar 11 2013, 10:50 PM] Josh Kay: what’s his GB rate Jason?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:50 PM] Jason Collette: that forearm issue in 08/09 scared him and his breaking ball became useless. Angels completely bailed Rays out of a baaaad contract
[Mar 11 2013, 10:51 PM] Jason Collette: anyone scared with Greinke’s balky elbow so far? Discount worth taking advantage of?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:51 PM] Josh Kay: that’s really what will keep me most intrigued.. if he has bounceback K% and BB% along with a nice GB rate.. granted the Indians infield defense doesn’t set the world on fire
[Mar 11 2013, 10:51 PM] lawrm: well, kazmir needs to show he can pitch. how we can still be fascinated with him is beyond me.
[Mar 11 2013, 10:51 PM] nymet: is big papi done? the next mo vaughn here today gone tommorrow?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:51 PM] AdamScott451: greinke never gets discounted though
[Mar 11 2013, 10:52 PM] Jason Collette: Big Papi’s sore cankles worry me. That said, I’d still take a chance on him at a $2 discount from his price a week ago
[Mar 11 2013, 10:52 PM] Josh Kay: far from done.. re-tooled his swing.. talked with Dave Magadan before he was fired… (Magadan is a neighbor of mine)
[Mar 11 2013, 10:52 PM] nymet: grienke got platlet transfusion today…
[Mar 11 2013, 10:52 PM] lawrm: magadan is a pretty smart guy, I spoke with him often when he coached at oakland
[Mar 11 2013, 10:52 PM] Jason Collette: Sale goes before Moore — Salfino will be very happy
[Mar 11 2013, 10:52 PM] Josh Kay: Ahh, thus the previously un-named person on the podcast who states opinions as facts 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 10:52 PM] Josh Kay: lol
[Mar 11 2013, 10:52 PM] JeffErickson: Are they going to let Moore go deeper into games?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:53 PM] Josh Kay: i assume Jason, you’ve seen the numbers from Brooks Baseball on Sales precipitous MPH decline on all pitches throughout the year?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:55 PM] Jason Collette: you can look at Sale’s increasing BABIP throughout the 2nd half of the season as well. @ Jeff — that’s up to Moore. He fought through control issues in 1st half because he would fall behind & get fastball happy. Got into a nice groove before hitting the rookie wall in September
[Mar 11 2013, 10:56 PM] Jason Collette: Sale’s BABIP throughout 2012 – http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs/10603_P_daily_full_7_20121003.png
[Mar 11 2013, 10:56 PM] Josh Kay: If Moore has found that curveball, he’ll be golden IMHO.. had some reverse platoon splits even while succeeding
[Mar 11 2013, 10:56 PM] AdamScott451: i like paul konerko but why on earth did he go in the 5th round
[Mar 11 2013, 10:56 PM] Josh Kay: due to the changeup+ fastball combo being his bread and butter
[Mar 11 2013, 10:56 PM] Jason Collette: Konerko has a lot of consistency in his corner
[Mar 11 2013, 10:57 PM] nymet: Flowers hammering Grecco for taking 4 out first 5 picks pitchers
[Mar 11 2013, 10:57 PM] Jason Collette: Greco is definitely zagging
[Mar 11 2013, 10:57 PM] Josh Kay: i heard last year that Moore had the highest spin rate on his fastball in the majors
[Mar 11 2013, 10:57 PM] bbeezy5: Hammering is a bit exaggerated nymet
[Mar 11 2013, 10:57 PM] Josh Kay: Medlen hasnt gone yet? wth
[Mar 11 2013, 10:58 PM] Josh Kay: Medlen my #7 pitcher in my rankings haha
[Mar 11 2013, 10:58 PM] Josh Kay: Medlen= Cliff Lee imho
[Mar 11 2013, 10:58 PM] Jason Collette: was wondering when sabathia was going to go
[Mar 11 2013, 10:58 PM] nymet: Josh Kay=Gecco
[Mar 11 2013, 10:58 PM] bbeezy5: Who’s 8,9,10 Jay?
[Mar 11 2013, 10:58 PM] Josh Kay: nahh Nymet, i write for FP911, but im definitely not Paul Greco lol
[Mar 11 2013, 10:58 PM] Jason Collette: Medlen looked bad on Friday when I saw him live. Conversely, Josh Johnson looked like Walter Johnson
[Mar 11 2013, 10:59 PM] Josh Kay: hmmm.. Jason, you should check out my Josh Johnson article on the fix… im so so so concerned about him
[Mar 11 2013, 11:00 PM] JeffErickson: Just saw the three-minute replay of last week’s “The Americans.” Keri Russell, badass … love it.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:00 PM] Jason Collette: talked to a industry guy at the yard this weekend who said he really likes what he’s seen of Johnson since middle of last year
[Mar 11 2013, 11:00 PM] Josh Kay: Jason.. Johnson’s fastball last year..
[Mar 11 2013, 11:00 PM] Jason Collette: he was 93-96 on Friday
[Mar 11 2013, 11:00 PM] ascarborough05: The last two picks, are incredible…just had to say that.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:00 PM] Josh Kay: slash line is as follows (BA/Slugging/ISO/TrueAverage
[Mar 11 2013, 11:01 PM] Josh Kay: from 2012
[Mar 11 2013, 11:01 PM] ascarborough05: (Phillips/Lawrie)
[Mar 11 2013, 11:01 PM] Jason Collette: CC & Lawrie 84/85…injury discounts that could pan out
[Mar 11 2013, 11:01 PM] Josh Kay: .296/.469/.161/.296
[Mar 11 2013, 11:01 PM] Josh Kay: in 2011, it was 236/.340/.104/.237
[Mar 11 2013, 11:02 PM] Josh Kay: again that’s BA/Slugging/ISO/True Average
[Mar 11 2013, 11:02 PM] Josh Kay: via Brooksbaseball
[Mar 11 2013, 11:02 PM] AdamScott451: no one has taken scherzer?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:02 PM] Josh Kay: terrified of J.J. .. so much
[Mar 11 2013, 11:02 PM] Josh Kay: Fastball mph on a 3 year decline
[Mar 11 2013, 11:02 PM] Jason Collette: so McLeod didn’t get Kimbrel earlier but a Price/Scherzer combination is mighty nice
[Mar 11 2013, 11:02 PM] Josh Kay: love that from Tim
[Mar 11 2013, 11:03 PM] Josh Kay: jason im going to link to you my article via twitter, you can check it out when you get some time
[Mar 11 2013, 11:03 PM] Jason Collette: ok
[Mar 11 2013, 11:03 PM] Jason Collette: Scherzer has an ADP range of 50 right now….once he got past the personal tragedy last season, he was amazeballs
[Mar 11 2013, 11:04 PM] AdamScott451: im amazed at how low scherzer is going, dude can win you a category
[Mar 11 2013, 11:04 PM] Josh Kay: 3.32 xERA last season
[Mar 11 2013, 11:04 PM] Jason Collette: Aoki just went 48 spots ahead of his current ADP…..and I have no problem with that
[Mar 11 2013, 11:04 PM] Josh Kay: Brewers ran SOOO much down the stretch last year
[Mar 11 2013, 11:05 PM] Jason Collette: and with Hart out, they may need to do it again to manufacture runs
[Mar 11 2013, 11:05 PM] Josh Kay: agreed. too bad Jean Segura has to bat 8th.. lovveee his speed
[Mar 11 2013, 11:08 PM] Jason Collette: aDP has Hosmer 20 spots ahead of Ike Davis but Ike goes 4 picks ahead of Hosmer here…not bad
[Mar 11 2013, 11:08 PM] Josh Kay: 40 HR upside
[Mar 11 2013, 11:09 PM] Josh Kay: who did he go to? i assume that team need HR and not steals?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:09 PM] Jason Collette: Wilin Rosario goes before Sal Perez — power upside for BA production
[Mar 11 2013, 11:09 PM] Jason Collette: Hosmer to Engel, Ike to McCaffrey
[Mar 11 2013, 11:09 PM] Jason Collette: Matt Moore finally goes at 103 to Ambrosius while Mark Trumbo goes 104. Trumbo had some helium in him last month
[Mar 11 2013, 11:10 PM] Josh Kay: what notable OF are still on the board?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:11 PM] Jason Collette: Crawford goes 98, Victorino 108…I feel better about the latter than the former
[Mar 11 2013, 11:11 PM] Jason Collette: best OF left: Granderson, Pence, Cruz, Crip, Pagan, de Aza, Beltran, Ethier
[Mar 11 2013, 11:11 PM] JeffErickson: Don’t like the Crawford pick at all.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:11 PM] Josh Kay: i guess Trumbo before those guys isn’t terrible..
[Mar 11 2013, 11:11 PM] Josh Kay: Crawford ahead of De Aza? what?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:11 PM] Jason Collette: I’m not even sure CRawford is a top 120 pick at this point
[Mar 11 2013, 11:12 PM] Josh Kay: does he even reach that value if he’s healthy all year?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:12 PM] Jason Collette: I thik Papeldouche at 113 is the 2nd closer off the board
[Mar 11 2013, 11:12 PM] Jason Collette: yea, Kimbrel at 68 was the only other one I see
[Mar 11 2013, 11:12 PM] JeffErickson: Let’s just say I’m significantly lower than even that on Crawford: http://www.rotowire.com/baseball/showArticle.htm?id=17130
[Mar 11 2013, 11:12 PM] Jason Collette: scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, oh there he is!
[Mar 11 2013, 11:14 PM] Jason Collette: and there go Granderson and Pence at 115/116
[Mar 11 2013, 11:14 PM] Jason Collette: for some reason, Prince Fielder is showing up in the draft pool 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 11:15 PM] Josh Kay: how much has OBP affected the speed only guys like Revere, Span, Crisp (and how do you think it will affect things going forward)
[Mar 11 2013, 11:16 PM] Jason Collette: per Gammons, Kazmir 89-93 today & “delivery restored”
[Mar 11 2013, 11:16 PM] Josh Kay: isnt he the same guy who said that the Tigers should trade Porcello for a proven closer?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:16 PM] Jason Collette: one in the same
[Mar 11 2013, 11:16 PM] Josh Kay: no longer interested in Kazmir. sigh
[Mar 11 2013, 11:17 PM] Josh Kay: woulda been fun too
[Mar 11 2013, 11:17 PM] Josh Kay: has he called him a “professional pitcher” yet?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:17 PM] Jason Collette: draft hold up as somehow, Fielder and Haren are showing up in the draft pool
[Mar 11 2013, 11:18 PM] Jason Collette: Fernando Rodney goes at 120, 3 spots after Jason Motte as the 3rd and 4th closers off the board. Personally, I’d rather have Soriano over both
[Mar 11 2013, 11:18 PM] Josh Kay: Jake McGee looms, Rays different closer 4 straight years.. totally agree
[Mar 11 2013, 11:18 PM] Jason Collette: and now Mariano Rivera just goes
[Mar 11 2013, 11:19 PM] Jason Collette: Rodney before Rivera — MAYANS PEOPLE
[Mar 11 2013, 11:19 PM] Josh Kay: -hats to the side-
[Mar 11 2013, 11:19 PM] sixerfan2012: who ends the year with the most saves on the tigers
[Mar 11 2013, 11:19 PM] Josh Kay: Jimmy Howard
[Mar 11 2013, 11:19 PM] Josh Kay: no clue. total crapshoot
[Mar 11 2013, 11:19 PM] Josh Kay: (in case you didnt get it, Jimmy Howard is the Red Wings goalie)
[Mar 11 2013, 11:21 PM] Josh Kay: probably will be bullpen by committee.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:21 PM] JeffErickson: I’ve been bullish on Alburquerque.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:21 PM] Josh Kay: that elbow tho…
[Mar 11 2013, 11:21 PM] Jason Collette: Tigers, and Red Sox, both have several good options if they wanted to go CbC
[Mar 11 2013, 11:21 PM] JeffErickson: indeed
[Mar 11 2013, 11:22 PM] JeffErickson: love Tazawa and Uehara for the Red Sox
[Mar 11 2013, 11:22 PM] Josh Kay: Hanrahan scares the crap out of me..
[Mar 11 2013, 11:22 PM] Josh Kay: good comp for Rondon.. Henry Rodriguez of the Nats?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:22 PM] Jason Collette: Uehara was such a good pick up for them. He has no splits but from what I recall, he’s not a guy that can work on 2-3 consecutive nights
[Mar 11 2013, 11:23 PM] JeffErickson: Josh – Fautino De Los Santos
[Mar 11 2013, 11:23 PM] Josh Kay: yeah. true.. tho all 3 really have no clue where the ball is going
[Mar 11 2013, 11:24 PM] Josh Kay: either Jeff or Jason .. either of you intrigued by the peripherals that Sean Doolittle put up last year? (Oakland)
[Mar 11 2013, 11:24 PM] Jason Collette: SSS for Doolittle…a bit of a concern about converted position players as they tend to have injury issues later. He’s a reverse splits guy though for now
[Mar 11 2013, 11:24 PM] Josh Kay: Balfour too injury prone..
[Mar 11 2013, 11:25 PM] Josh Kay: that’s kind of what i thought Jason. thx.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:25 PM] JeffErickson: Love him in scoresheet, not as much in roto
[Mar 11 2013, 11:25 PM] JeffErickson: I think that the lefty bias will work against him.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:25 PM] Josh Kay: even in a club as shrewd as Oakland?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:25 PM] JeffErickson: Yes
[Mar 11 2013, 11:26 PM] JeffErickson: I’m not convinced that the reverse splits are for real yet – SSS has to apply to that, too, no?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:26 PM] Josh Kay: speaking of lefty bias.. Jared Burton interests me for that same reason (cause of Glen Perkins)
[Mar 11 2013, 11:26 PM] Josh Kay: yeah, probably is a year away from Roto value
[Mar 11 2013, 11:27 PM] Jason Collette: yea, absolutely on Doolittle. Same would go for McGee
[Mar 11 2013, 11:27 PM] Josh Kay: i will have McGee on plenty of my teams, regardless of whether he saves any games
[Mar 11 2013, 11:28 PM] JeffErickson: If he costs the minimum, I’ll own him, but there are other fish in the sea otherwise.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:29 PM] Jason Collette: online drafts are so much fun….
[Mar 11 2013, 11:29 PM] Josh Kay: namely Kelvin Herrera
[Mar 11 2013, 11:29 PM] Josh Kay: such a man crush for me
[Mar 11 2013, 11:29 PM] Jason Collette: there are plenty of MR types to target in the end game. I got Uehara, Furbush, McGee, and Davis all last year from $0-$4
[Mar 11 2013, 11:30 PM] Josh Kay: Holland has HR issues and walks a lot of guys.. sure the strikeouts make up for it.. but a unlucky strand rate after a few early season walk fests spells an easy way for Herrera to gain that role
[Mar 11 2013, 11:31 PM] Josh Kay: are there managers that are cognizant of the lack of true value in having a true closer that you think might be more willing to keep their higher skilled pitchers in setup roles, which arguably have the higher leverage innings?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:32 PM] Jason Collette: closer run for a bit with Holland at 131, Axford at 135, and Johnson at 137
[Mar 11 2013, 11:33 PM] Josh Kay: Johnson.. lol
[Mar 11 2013, 11:33 PM] Jason Collette: Johnson was a bargain last year in drafts, now he’s fairly priced/placed
[Mar 11 2013, 11:34 PM] Josh Kay: doubt that GB rate + low walk combo continues to breed success as a closer.. simply because his job can sway in a New York Minute if Strand Rate and BABIP grab him by the throat
[Mar 11 2013, 11:34 PM] Josh Kay: love that combo for Starters, not so much for closers
[Mar 11 2013, 11:35 PM] Jason Collette: Putz at 142 – a guy I’d rather have over either Johnson or Axford..and even Holland
[Mar 11 2013, 11:36 PM] Jason Collette: it’s pick 146 and Doug Fister is still sitting out there. Nuts
[Mar 11 2013, 11:36 PM] Josh Kay: i just dont understand that
[Mar 11 2013, 11:36 PM] Josh Kay: i have Fister in my Top 30 SP
[Mar 11 2013, 11:37 PM] Paul Sporer: whoever is using my SP guide is winning
[Mar 11 2013, 11:37 PM] Josh Kay: Paul, Craig went 42.. satisfied or no?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:37 PM] Jason Collette: My draft was last Wednesday. I didn’t buy a guide, but the fact I didn’t have it on Wednesday definitely doomed my draft
[Mar 11 2013, 11:37 PM] Paul Sporer: i’m not in the draft. 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 11:37 PM] Josh Kay: i mean as a craig fan 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 11:38 PM] Paul Sporer: i prefer craig to as low as possible bc it’s inflating the f out of his position for me in my drafts
[Mar 11 2013, 11:38 PM] Jason Collette: 1B run of LaRoche @ 149, Berkman @ 151, and David @ 152
[Mar 11 2013, 11:38 PM] Josh Kay: why is LaRoche going so late?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:38 PM] Jason Collette: Doug Fister went at 148 as Eno Sarris must be reading this board
[Mar 11 2013, 11:38 PM] Josh Kay: i mean the dude is a lock for 27 .265-.275 95 RBI
[Mar 11 2013, 11:38 PM] Josh Kay: 27 HR*
[Mar 11 2013, 11:39 PM] toutwars: Can those 1B be accused going on a “run.” More like a jog.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:39 PM] Jason Collette: Erick Aybar at 154 is a good grab – I’ve seen him go as high as 100 in some of the expert stuff
[Mar 11 2013, 11:39 PM] Josh Kay: walk rate killing Aybar?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:40 PM] JeffErickson: Saunter
[Mar 11 2013, 11:40 PM] Josh Kay: mosey
[Mar 11 2013, 11:40 PM] Paul Sporer: lack of standout skill probably keeping aybar undervalued
[Mar 11 2013, 11:40 PM] Jason Collette: lollygaggers
[Mar 11 2013, 11:40 PM] Josh Kay: where did Medlen go Jason?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:40 PM] Paul Sporer: omfg
[Mar 11 2013, 11:40 PM] Josh Kay: yes, Paul, im that guy -_-
[Mar 11 2013, 11:40 PM] ascarborough05: 6.7
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Paul Sporer: i see shields at 6.7
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Jason Collette: Kay:Medlen >>>> Sporer:Craig
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Paul Sporer: 6.6 for Med
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Paul Sporer: at least my guy hasn’t peaked 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Josh Kay: blah,
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Jason Collette: Dunn finally goes at 156 and Adam Eaton goes 159
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Josh Kay: yeah neither has mine
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Paul Sporer: well
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Paul Sporer: except that he has
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Paul Sporer: but otherwise, you’re correct
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Josh Kay: i mean, stats wise, sure,
[Mar 11 2013, 11:41 PM] Jason Collette: Danny Espinosa goes 160 – and that non-throwing shoulder labrum thing has me concerned.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:42 PM] Josh Kay: sub 1.00 ERA
[Mar 11 2013, 11:42 PM] Josh Kay: not coming back, ever
[Mar 11 2013, 11:42 PM] Josh Kay: skills wise,
[Mar 11 2013, 11:42 PM] Josh Kay: i mean 3.00 ERA is absolutely reasonable
[Mar 11 2013, 11:42 PM] Paul Sporer: it’s the high end
[Mar 11 2013, 11:42 PM] Paul Sporer: and he HAS to do it to payoff at his cost
[Mar 11 2013, 11:42 PM] Josh Kay: of what range?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:42 PM] Paul Sporer: most overrated commodity in baseball this year
[Mar 11 2013, 11:42 PM] Josh Kay: and Trout isn’t?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:42 PM] Paul Sporer: not even close to Trout
[Mar 11 2013, 11:43 PM] Paul Sporer: trout can give back tons of be fine
[Mar 11 2013, 11:43 PM] Paul Sporer: he has the skill
[Mar 11 2013, 11:43 PM] Josh Kay: and Medlen doesn’t?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:43 PM] Jason Collette: Morales at 163 is a really nice pick in this draft
[Mar 11 2013, 11:43 PM] Paul Sporer: not for 6.6
[Mar 11 2013, 11:43 PM] Paul Shapiro: Braves pitchers always outperform. He’ll be excellent
[Mar 11 2013, 11:43 PM] Jason Collette: I’ll say it — I like Minor to turn a profit more than Medlen this season
[Mar 11 2013, 11:43 PM] Paul Sporer: he’s not better than Cueto, Zimm, Scherzer
[Mar 11 2013, 11:43 PM] Josh Kay: Jason, does Medlen get talked about much on the pod? im listening right now
[Mar 11 2013, 11:43 PM] Josh Kay: he’s in that class Paul
[Mar 11 2013, 11:44 PM] Paul Sporer: no he’s not
[Mar 11 2013, 11:44 PM] Jason Collette: Yea, we hit Medlen a lot
[Mar 11 2013, 11:44 PM] Josh Kay: cant wait
[Mar 11 2013, 11:44 PM] Josh Kay: usually agree with Paul’s opinions, but we couldn’t be farther away on Medlen
[Mar 11 2013, 11:44 PM] Paul Sporer: he thrashed a bunch of garbage teams for a 12-start stretch and now he’s massively overrated
[Mar 11 2013, 11:44 PM] Jason Collette: Addison Reed @ 165 >>> Jim Johnson @ 137
[Mar 11 2013, 11:44 PM] Paul Sporer: i actually love Medlen, just think his price is hilariously out of whack
[Mar 11 2013, 11:44 PM] Paul Sporer: Samardzija 9.6 >>>>>>>> Medlen 6.6
[Mar 11 2013, 11:44 PM] Josh Kay: Medlen has better skills than Hellickson,
[Mar 11 2013, 11:44 PM] Tim Heaney: Don’t forget that 93.3% LOB as a SP
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Tim Heaney: hey, folks
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Jason Collette: Ambrosius lands both Matt Harvey & Matt Moore — that could be awesome
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Paul Sporer: LOL
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Josh Kay: a similar approach to pitching
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Jason Collette: Timmah!
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Paul Sporer: jason, you wanna take this one?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Paul Sporer: Tim!!!!!!!
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Josh Kay: Paul, i love Hellickson
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Paul Sporer: 93.3 LOB is sustainable
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Tim Heaney: maybe by Kimbrel
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Paul Sporer: LOL
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Josh Kay: your trolling is ridiculous
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Josh Kay: no crap he wont sustain that
[Mar 11 2013, 11:45 PM] Paul Sporer: ?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:46 PM] Jason Collette: Josh Johnson falls to pick 172….really?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:46 PM] Josh Kay: why you gotta say 93.3% is sustainable.. obviously its not
[Mar 11 2013, 11:46 PM] Paul Sporer: trolling?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:46 PM] Paul Sporer: settle down man
[Mar 11 2013, 11:46 PM] Josh Kay: im not saying that he will sustain that
[Mar 11 2013, 11:46 PM] Paul Sporer: i didn’t say you were, relax
[Mar 11 2013, 11:46 PM] Josh Kay: i mean.. outfield defense is so much better too..
[Mar 11 2013, 11:46 PM] Paul Sporer: is it Josh Kay Medlen or something? jeez
[Mar 11 2013, 11:46 PM] Josh Kay: pick a SP in Medlen’s range
[Mar 11 2013, 11:46 PM] Josh Kay: and we can do a friendly wager
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Jason Collette: Homer Bailey 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Paul Sporer: i’ll take any that i listed that he went before
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Tim Heaney: love it, Jason
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Josh Kay: Homer Bailey doesn’t have a huge GB rate
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Josh Kay: FYI, HQ loves Medlen as much as i do
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Josh Kay: so im not insane here
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Paul Sporer: ?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Jason Collette: Jean Segura goes before Derek Jeter….cat and dogs living together!
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Paul Sporer: flawed logic
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Josh Kay: check the comments in the forecaster as well
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Paul Sporer: bc someone agrees, you’re right?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:47 PM] Josh Kay: not at all
[Mar 11 2013, 11:48 PM] Paul Sporer: they overrate him too
[Mar 11 2013, 11:48 PM] Josh Kay: im just saying im not insane on an island
[Mar 11 2013, 11:48 PM] Paul Sporer: you’re not alone in your overrating
[Mar 11 2013, 11:48 PM] Paul Sporer: he went 6.6
[Mar 11 2013, 11:48 PM] Jason Collette: all I’m saying is guys like Minor or Bailey could turn profits while Medlin has to match if not exceed last year to justify where he’s going
[Mar 11 2013, 11:48 PM] Josh Kay: right Jason, totally agree
[Mar 11 2013, 11:48 PM] Paul Sporer: exactly, just as i said about 20 minutes ago
[Mar 11 2013, 11:48 PM] Tim Heaney: haha
[Mar 11 2013, 11:48 PM] Josh Kay: Medlen isn’t a profitable commodity this year in many drafts, but we dont have to make all of our picks for profit
[Mar 11 2013, 11:48 PM] Jason Collette: current starter ADPs – http://stats.washingtonpost.com/mlb/adp.asp?pos=SP
[Mar 11 2013, 11:49 PM] Paul Sporer: but there is a lot of downside risk
[Mar 11 2013, 11:49 PM] Jason Collette: guys behind Medlen I’d take: Scherzer, Schields, Gallardo, Cueto, Zimmerman, Moore, Fister
[Mar 11 2013, 11:49 PM] Josh Kay: on that Braves team.. is 20 wins insane?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:49 PM] Paul Sporer: projecting 20 wins for anyone is insane
[Mar 11 2013, 11:49 PM] Josh Kay: id take Medlen > Shields
[Mar 11 2013, 11:49 PM] ascarborough05: Yes.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:49 PM] bretsayre: predicting 20 wins for anyone is insane
[Mar 11 2013, 11:49 PM] ascarborough05: exactly Paul
[Mar 11 2013, 11:49 PM] Jason Collette: 15-16 wins should be your max for any projection
[Mar 11 2013, 11:50 PM] Jason Collette: Brett Anderson goes 181 with the shoulder issue news from yesterday – a full round below his ADP
[Mar 11 2013, 11:50 PM] Josh Kay: i mean the imperfection of projections is an ad-nauseam type discussion
[Mar 11 2013, 11:50 PM] Josh Kay: wonder where Rubby De La Rosa gets taken
[Mar 11 2013, 11:50 PM] Josh Kay: love that guy
[Mar 11 2013, 11:50 PM] Paul Sporer: that line of discussion has nothing to do with projecting 20 wins for someone
[Mar 11 2013, 11:50 PM] sixerfan2012: i thought it was his neck not shoulder?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:50 PM] Paul Sporer: it’s idiotic to ever project
[Mar 11 2013, 11:50 PM] Paul Sporer: yes, neck
[Mar 11 2013, 11:51 PM] ascarborough05: B
[Mar 11 2013, 11:51 PM] Jason Collette: trapezius..either way, don’t like seeing him with anything
[Mar 11 2013, 11:51 PM] JeffErickson: Unless the reporting of that injury was wrong, wasn’t it Anderson’s *right* trapezius?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:51 PM] Jason Collette: Thorburn talked about it for us last night on the podcast
[Mar 11 2013, 11:51 PM] AdamScott451: wait jason what do you mean medlen has to match or exceed last year to be a profit, last year he has a 1.5 era
[Mar 11 2013, 11:51 PM] Paul Shapiro: lol yes that was a funny statement
[Mar 11 2013, 11:51 PM] Paul Sporer: he has to be a stud is all i mean. 3.00 ERA for a full season
[Mar 11 2013, 11:51 PM] Josh Kay: Jason.. Medlen is going for $15 in mixed league drafts…
[Mar 11 2013, 11:51 PM] Josh Kay: you don’t see profit potential there?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:52 PM] Jason Collette: My issue with Medlen is that there are at least 5 guys behind him on current ADP I’d take first
[Mar 11 2013, 11:52 PM] Paul Sporer: not in the highest probability range
[Mar 11 2013, 11:52 PM] AdamScott451: ah. but thats different from matching or exceeding last year to be a profit 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 11:52 PM] Josh Kay: but Paul, you said on the podcast with Mike Gianella that many of your picks that you make are with your gut as well
[Mar 11 2013, 11:52 PM] Tim Heaney: There was nothing BUT profit for him last year. Now, you’re making him an ace or 2.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:52 PM] Paul Sporer: josh
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Paul Sporer: you’re being waaaaay too defensive
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Josh Kay: no im not lol, not receivable via text
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Tim Heaney: idk, I wouldn’t be comfortable with him as higher than a 3rd
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Paul Sporer: you really are
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Tim Heaney: as *anything
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Josh Kay: 3rd rounder?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Tim Heaney: SP3
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Tim Heaney: in mixed
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Josh Kay: SP 2 personally, but we all have our opinions
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Paul Sporer: ditto, Tim
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Paul Sporer: yes
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Jason Collette: Glen Perkins at 187 is a nice late closer grab and Mike Minor goes 190
[Mar 11 2013, 11:53 PM] Paul Sporer: we do
[Mar 11 2013, 11:54 PM] Josh Kay: love Minor at 190
[Mar 11 2013, 11:54 PM] Jason Collette: Hellickson went off the board to McLeod at 182 as Tim corners the Rays SP market
[Mar 11 2013, 11:54 PM] Paul Sporer: so why are you trying to so hard to make yours the prevailing one? 🙂
[Mar 11 2013, 11:54 PM] Tim Heaney: Minor showed a lot with mound poise last year
[Mar 11 2013, 11:54 PM] Josh Kay: can Minor fix his stretch-windup disparity?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:54 PM] Tim Heaney: think he turned a huge corner
[Mar 11 2013, 11:54 PM] Tim Heaney: he did for part of last year
[Mar 11 2013, 11:54 PM] Paul Sporer: thorburn isn’t as sold
[Mar 11 2013, 11:54 PM] Josh Kay: wonder where Fiers and Rogers land
[Mar 11 2013, 11:54 PM] Jason Collette: anything is correctable. Minor just needs to keep the ball in the yard more as that’s where he gets done in
[Mar 11 2013, 11:55 PM] Tim Heaney: Rogers looks like he’ll be on the outside looking in
[Mar 11 2013, 11:55 PM] Paul Sporer: how many rounds? i’d be surprised if rogers is taken
[Mar 11 2013, 11:55 PM] Josh Kay: i took Mark Rogers late late in an NL-Only mock with Derek Van Riper and Jeff Erickson, was pretty happy with it
[Mar 11 2013, 11:55 PM] Josh Kay: pretty interesting spec pick
[Mar 11 2013, 11:55 PM] Tim Heaney: I think Fiers is Collmenter but sustainable
[Mar 11 2013, 11:55 PM] Jason Collette: which is dumb as they fall for the “MUST HAVE LHP IN ROTATION” theory
[Mar 11 2013, 11:55 PM] Josh Kay: Fiers – Collmenter .. intriguing
[Mar 11 2013, 11:55 PM] Tim Heaney: slightly similar windup deception involved, but Fiers is more legit
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] Paul Sporer: ha
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] Josh Kay: is it asinine to say that Jered Weaver is Collmenter/Fiers in an insanely friendly pitcher park?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] Jason Collette: Fiers can paint
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] Josh Kay: i mean, i hate Weaver
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] Paul Sporer: i mentioned as much in the SP guide, time
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] Paul Sporer: also showed a pic of Fiers’ sweet sweet stache
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] Tim Heaney: it’s definitely a broad stroke comparison, but it’s precedent
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] AdamScott451: you guys like lance lynn?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] Paul Sporer: love Lynn
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] Jason Collette: Marco Estrada goes 194 to brewer homer Kessenich. Championship
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] bretsayre: lance lynn > mike minor
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] bretsayre: >> in fact
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] Tim Heaney: nice, Paul
[Mar 11 2013, 11:56 PM] Josh Kay: loved that Lynn bounced back in September after that awful awful August
[Mar 11 2013, 11:57 PM] Josh Kay: Estrada could either be awesome or this will finally be the year we admit as an industry that he is one of those guys that will have an FIP xFIP disparity
[Mar 11 2013, 11:57 PM] Josh Kay: those HR’s make me cringe
[Mar 11 2013, 11:57 PM] Jason Collette: Homer Bailey goes 199 — love that
[Mar 11 2013, 11:57 PM] Paul Sporer: nice at 199
[Mar 11 2013, 11:58 PM] Jason Collette: I mean, is Brandon Morrow really 55 picks better?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:58 PM] ascarborough05: Yes, he is Collette.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:58 PM] Paul Sporer: nah
[Mar 11 2013, 11:58 PM] ascarborough05: (that’s the homer in me talking though)
[Mar 11 2013, 11:58 PM] Paul Sporer: lots o’ wishcasting on Morrow
[Mar 11 2013, 11:58 PM] stlsluggers: Has Chen gone yet?
[Mar 11 2013, 11:58 PM] Josh Kay: Paul, Jason, Tim.. buying Jake Arrieta as a possible sleeper? velocity increase last year.. improved GB rate on the fastball, improvement in the curveball.. .100 ish ISO for batters against his curveball… Slider was the issue.. 22% HR/FB for batters against his slider last season
[Mar 11 2013, 11:58 PM] Jason Collette: Amanda is a homer, Amanda is a homer
[Mar 11 2013, 11:59 PM] Tim Heaney: I think Arrieta will have a better year than Tillman.
[Mar 11 2013, 11:59 PM] Paul Sporer: uh oh
[Mar 11 2013, 11:59 PM] Jason Collette: booo Timmy
[Mar 11 2013, 11:59 PM] Paul Sporer: saw that coming lol
[Mar 11 2013, 11:59 PM] Josh Kay: if Arrieta brings his 2011 slider, and 2012 fastball and curveball..
[Mar 11 2013, 11:59 PM] Tim Heaney: (someone reads my Twitter)
[Mar 11 2013, 11:59 PM] Josh Kay: i think he can reach 3.60 ERA
[Mar 11 2013, 11:59 PM] Jason Collette: Carlos Gomez goes 150 picks after Desmond Jennings
[Mar 11 2013, 11:59 PM] Josh Kay: yeah just what we were talking about Jason, i just dont understand that
[Mar 11 2013, 11:59 PM] Josh Kay: both will get the green light about the same amount
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Paul Sporer: desmond is one of hte more overrated commodities, too
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Josh Kay: obviously Gomez with less walk rate upside
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] AdamScott451: wow how does gomez last this long
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Paul Sporer: dunno, but women love it
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Josh Kay: i feel like Desmond Jennings is a great target for a very specific strategy
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] AdamScott451: ah obp league.. still though
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Tim Heaney: yeah, that’s a nice price.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Josh Kay: IE; punting batting average
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Tim Heaney: that late, who cares about BA
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Josh Kay: but other than that, im probably not touching him
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Tim Heaney: downside mitigated
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Scarlet Spain: G
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Josh Kay: right, if we are referring to Gomez Tim
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Tim Heaney: ah
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Josh Kay: but Jennings has a heftier price
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Tim Heaney: yes
[Mar 12 2013, 12:00 AM] Jason Collette: Alexi Ogando at 205 is a nice buy
[Mar 12 2013, 12:01 AM] Paul Sporer: very pleased with Ogando’s last outing
[Mar 12 2013, 12:01 AM] Josh Kay: good to hear, ya’ll were concerned about Ogando’s velo on a recent podcast
[Mar 12 2013, 12:01 AM] Tim Heaney: no Tout mix auction folks in here, right? lol
[Mar 12 2013, 12:01 AM] Tim Heaney: Ogando, indeed
[Mar 12 2013, 12:01 AM] Scarlet Spain: Medlen round 12 or cueto round 9 mixed
[Mar 12 2013, 12:01 AM] stlsluggers: medlen for me
[Mar 12 2013, 12:01 AM] Paul Shapiro: medlen
[Mar 12 2013, 12:02 AM] Josh Kay: medlen, but i promised Paul i won’t open up that can of worms again
[Mar 12 2013, 12:02 AM] Paul Shapiro: ha
[Mar 12 2013, 12:02 AM] Josh Kay: Sporer that is
[Mar 12 2013, 12:02 AM] Scarlet Spain: Thats guys
[Mar 12 2013, 12:02 AM] Tim Heaney: For me, the round difference says Medlen, but it’s close
[Mar 12 2013, 12:02 AM] Paul Shapiro: iknow
[Mar 12 2013, 12:02 AM] Paul Sporer: it bothered you more than me
[Mar 12 2013, 12:02 AM] Paul Sporer: agree with Tim
[Mar 12 2013, 12:02 AM] Scarlet Spain: Thanks guys
[Mar 12 2013, 12:02 AM] stlsluggers: yeah i only like medlen due to the 3 rounds
[Mar 12 2013, 12:03 AM] Paul Shapiro: I’d have gone Medlen if 2 rounds diff
[Mar 12 2013, 12:03 AM] Josh Kay: is it crazy to say that Wade Miley has a chance to throw himself into the group of Elite GB Elite Walk %, Middling K’s pitchers that outpitch their xFIP and xERA’s?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:04 AM] Josh Kay: is Drew Smyly still available Jason?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:04 AM] stlsluggers: I would say not crazy but i wouldnt put money on it
[Mar 12 2013, 12:04 AM] Jason Collette: yes, Smyly still out there
[Mar 12 2013, 12:04 AM] Josh Kay: he should be going off the board soon.. no?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:05 AM] Paul Sporer: not without a job
[Mar 12 2013, 12:05 AM] Jason Collette: Cishek at 212 is a nice late closer buy
[Mar 12 2013, 12:05 AM] Josh Kay: Leyland seems like he might fall for the “have to have a lefty in the rotation” and at least in this case it would be the correct move..
[Mar 12 2013, 12:05 AM] Josh Kay: agreed?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:05 AM] Paul Sporer: not necessarily
[Mar 12 2013, 12:05 AM] Jason Collette: what do you know about the Tigers? GOSH
[Mar 12 2013, 12:06 AM] Paul Sporer: the who?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:06 AM] Josh Kay: lol
[Mar 12 2013, 12:06 AM] Tim Heaney: The way Porcello is pitching, that may not matter.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:06 AM] Paul Sporer: exactly Tim
[Mar 12 2013, 12:06 AM] Jason Collette: Jason Hammel at pick 214 is a nice purchase as well this late
[Mar 12 2013, 12:06 AM] Tim Heaney: my boy!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:06 AM] Paul Sporer: i pay virtually NO heed to spring numbers
[Mar 12 2013, 12:06 AM] Paul Sporer: but dude looks amazing out there
[Mar 12 2013, 12:06 AM] Josh Kay: i mean i dont know how Porcello keeps his ERA below 10 with that infield
[Mar 12 2013, 12:06 AM] stlsluggers: below 10 is a bit of a high benchmark
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Jason Collette: if I end up with Mark Reynolds on my team, I may run through a plate glass door
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Jason Collette: and enjoy it more
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Scarlet Spain: What other pitchers you guys like that can turn a big profit minor?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Tim Heaney: Depending on the room, Trevor Cahill
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Josh Kay: Ivan Nova
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Josh Kay: omg i love Cahill
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] stlsluggers: Jason, Reynolds or Saunders ;)?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Tim Heaney: Nova’s another one
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Josh Kay: Tim have you seen my short article on Cahill?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Paul Shapiro: what do you think of Phelps?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Josh Kay: talked about his cutter usage
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Josh Kay: and how he used it most in the 3 months he had the best peripherals
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Tim Heaney: have not, Josh, but, yeah, it’s a great reason
[Mar 12 2013, 12:07 AM] Tim Heaney: send it to me when you get a chance
[Mar 12 2013, 12:08 AM] Jason Collette: using this – http://stats.washingtonpost.com/mlb/adp.asp?pos=SP – & looking below pick 99: Peralta, Ramirez, Baker, Nova, de la Rosa, Harrell
[Mar 12 2013, 12:08 AM] Tim Heaney: Julio Teheran, too
[Mar 12 2013, 12:08 AM] Jason Collette: Corey Hart all the way to 220 – that could really turn a nice profit if he can indeed make it back quicker
[Mar 12 2013, 12:08 AM] Josh Kay: nice and short.. quick easy read.. http://www.thefantasyfix.com/2013/02/trevor-cahill-and-the-cutter/
[Mar 12 2013, 12:08 AM] sixerfan2012: does Bauer win the 5th starter job or start the year in the minors?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:08 AM] Josh Kay: Bauer can’t hit the broadside of a barn
[Mar 12 2013, 12:08 AM] Paul Sporer: Also a breezy read: http://paulsporer.com/2013/01/21/2013-starting-pitcher-guide-pre-order/
[Mar 12 2013, 12:08 AM] Paul Shapiro: Jason, what do you think of Phelps?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:08 AM] Jason Collette: I’m leaning toward the latter on Bauer
[Mar 12 2013, 12:09 AM] Josh Kay: barn ?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:09 AM] Tim Heaney: agree w/Jason
[Mar 12 2013, 12:09 AM] Jason Collette: Phelps is what he is….a SP5 in real life & reserve in an draft
[Mar 12 2013, 12:09 AM] Tim Heaney: but love the inseason potential
[Mar 12 2013, 12:09 AM] stlsluggers: very well done Paul, really enjoyed reading
[Mar 12 2013, 12:09 AM] Josh Kay: Paul, i think Phelps is pretty valuable as a Long Relief swing man
[Mar 12 2013, 12:09 AM] Paul Shapiro: tks both
[Mar 12 2013, 12:09 AM] Paul Sporer: ty stl
[Mar 12 2013, 12:09 AM] Josh Kay: will be sure to check that out Paul when im done listening to the podcast
[Mar 12 2013, 12:09 AM] Paul Sporer: ok mf’ers
[Mar 12 2013, 12:09 AM] Scarlet Spain: Any hitters that can turn huge profit like craig did last year?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:10 AM] Jason Collette: Andrelton Simmons at 225 – I still don’t know what to think about him
[Mar 12 2013, 12:10 AM] Paul Sporer: sporer and shapiro from now on
[Mar 12 2013, 12:10 AM] Josh Kay: deal
[Mar 12 2013, 12:10 AM] Josh Kay: or Paul S. and Paul 😛
[Mar 12 2013, 12:10 AM] Tim Heaney: The Taller Paul…ers
[Mar 12 2013, 12:10 AM] stlsluggers: np Paul, ty for the great guide!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:10 AM] Paul Shapiro: whichever
[Mar 12 2013, 12:10 AM] Paul Shapiro: 🙂
[Mar 12 2013, 12:10 AM] Tim Heaney: The Paulers of Power?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:11 AM] Paul Shapiro: shaps good for me
[Mar 12 2013, 12:11 AM] Jason Collette: @ Scarlet – using http://stats.washingtonpost.com/mlb/adp.asp?pos=OF for OF & looking after pick 80: Gutierrez, Dirks, Duda, Reimold, Martin, Brown come to mind
[Mar 12 2013, 12:11 AM] Josh Kay: Tim did you see the link?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:11 AM] Tim Heaney: I did, Josh. Will catch it in a bit, thanks.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:11 AM] Josh Kay: good deal
[Mar 12 2013, 12:11 AM] Jason Collette: De Aza falls down to pick 232 – has the potential to be rather profitable
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] Josh Kay: Delmon Young .. thoughts in Philly?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] Scarlet Spain: Thanks jason
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] Paul Sporer: no
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] Paul Sporer: stop
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] Josh Kay: obviously he’s a first round pick if Errors are a positive roto category
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] stlsluggers: Paul S, read the guide on these 3 but how would you rank Estrada/Chen/Bailey?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] Paul Sporer: he was great on Family Matters as the dad
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] Josh Kay: lol
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] Paul Sporer: Bailey, Estrada, Chen (Wei-Yin I assume?)
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] stlsluggers: yeah no bruce style
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] Paul Sporer: oh god
[Mar 12 2013, 12:12 AM] Paul Sporer: then
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] nymet: Myers or jackie bradley this year?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Josh Kay: wonder how many Andrelton Simmons’ it would take to cancel out Delmon Young in a scoresheet format
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Jason Collette: Coco Crisp 235 love…Justin Ruggiano 234 hate
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Josh Kay: or stratomatic
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Paul Sporer: bailey, estrada ……………….. my beagle ……………. me……………… bruce chen
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Tim Heaney: haha
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Josh Kay: lol @ bruce chen
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] stlsluggers: i would draft Curtis over Estrada
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Tim Heaney: duh
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Jason Collette: I hope Delmon Young’s cankle takes forever to heal
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Josh Kay: Peter Gammons would take Bruce Chen #1
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Josh Kay: most professional pitcher ever
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Jason Collette: Fiers goes at 238 after Vogelsong, Cahill, Buchholz
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] stlsluggers: and it wasnt Bruce, i was saying yeah it was Wei and no it wasnt Bruce. sorry that wasnt clear. Still would take Curtis over Estrada
[Mar 12 2013, 12:13 AM] Paul Sporer: buchholz sucks
[Mar 12 2013, 12:14 AM] Jason Collette: seems fair but I like Buchholz more than most
[Mar 12 2013, 12:14 AM] Josh Kay: Cahill in the mid 200s? whoever got him wins
[Mar 12 2013, 12:14 AM] Josh Kay: lol,
[Mar 12 2013, 12:14 AM] Paul Sporer: so
[Mar 12 2013, 12:14 AM] Tim Heaney: I’m not in this league but I still drafted him.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:14 AM] Paul Sporer: making a hard left turn
[Mar 12 2013, 12:14 AM] Tim Heaney: so … me
[Mar 12 2013, 12:14 AM] Paul Sporer: i went to the container store for the first time today
[Mar 12 2013, 12:14 AM] Paul Sporer: holy fuck
[Mar 12 2013, 12:14 AM] Paul Sporer: coulda dropped a grip in that nugg
[Mar 12 2013, 12:15 AM] Josh Kay: I was buying Buchholz’s increase in K’s last year, but with John Farrell back in town, i’m not touching him
[Mar 12 2013, 12:15 AM] Paul Sporer: baseball hq gave the container store badass marks, too
[Mar 12 2013, 12:15 AM] Jason Collette: helium boy Gyorko goes @ 242 and Ryan Madson’s elbow goes to 243….could be a nice late saves buy if he’s back on track by mid-April
[Mar 12 2013, 12:15 AM] Paul Sporer: i love madson but i’m scurred
[Mar 12 2013, 12:15 AM] Josh Kay: Helium boy.. you referring to hype there Jason or his belly?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:16 AM] Tim Heaney: better than Fallout Boy, that’s for damn sure
[Mar 12 2013, 12:16 AM] Jason Collette: he’s not going down in an earlier rounds
[Mar 12 2013, 12:16 AM] Paul Sporer: strong Tim
[Mar 12 2013, 12:16 AM] Tim Heaney: but Paul, you ain’t never scared.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:16 AM] Tim Heaney: that grammar was strong, as well
[Mar 12 2013, 12:16 AM] Jason Collette: hells yeah it was
[Mar 12 2013, 12:16 AM] Josh Kay: i thought your grammar there was amazeballs
[Mar 12 2013, 12:17 AM] Jason Collette: Teixeira @246 — has a player ever gone > 4x lower from one year to the next?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:17 AM] Paul Sporer: wow
[Mar 12 2013, 12:17 AM] Jason Collette: Chris Carter goes before Michael Young. THAT’S GRIT PEOPLE!!!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:18 AM] stlsluggers: Don’t they realize that MY brings leadership to a team!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:18 AM] nymet: Tex this years crawford- hell be coming back every month until he doesnt
[Mar 12 2013, 12:18 AM] Josh Kay: so true STL
[Mar 12 2013, 12:19 AM] Josh Kay: great clubhouse prescene
[Mar 12 2013, 12:19 AM] Josh Kay: *sarcasm*
[Mar 12 2013, 12:19 AM] Jason Collette: last 3 catchers to go: Brantly 249, Flowers 250, Arencibia 254
[Mar 12 2013, 12:19 AM] Paul Sporer: i read that MY as “my”
[Mar 12 2013, 12:19 AM] Jason Collette: more likely for Teixeira: he hist .260 or he hits 20 HRs?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:19 AM] stlsluggers: I like Brantly less than those other 2
[Mar 12 2013, 12:19 AM] Paul Sporer: and thought you forgot to put “milkshake” after it
[Mar 12 2013, 12:19 AM] stlsluggers: i would rather have a milkshake than MYoung on any team
[Mar 12 2013, 12:19 AM] Josh Kay: anyone thoughts on J.R. Graham and whether he is relevant this year?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:20 AM] nymet: niether on Tex this year- the word surgery been dripping the past 2 days
[Mar 12 2013, 12:20 AM] AdamScott451: the one injured guy i will draft is corey hart, he always comes back faster than anticipated and always mashes
[Mar 12 2013, 12:21 AM] Jason Collette: and AJ Ellis went after that trio with Jaso going 7 picks later. Wade Davis at 260 could be very nice if the velo holds up and Wil Myers goes 5 picks ahead of Cameron Maybin
[Mar 12 2013, 12:21 AM] Josh Kay: i like that pick, falls in with the logic of the fact that you can accrue someone else’s stats while he’s healing.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:21 AM] stlsluggers: I would post on Graham but it would be copyright infringement on PS’s SP Guide. Might want to read it!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:21 AM] Tim Heaney: Jaso is the best of that group!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:21 AM] Josh Kay: OBP league.. how are Jaso and AJ Ellis going so darn late????
[Mar 12 2013, 12:22 AM] stlsluggers: yeah that’s odd to me.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:22 AM] Josh Kay: and ahead of Arencibia at that!!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:22 AM] Jason Collette: yep — no idea how Jaso falls this far in an OBP draft
[Mar 12 2013, 12:23 AM] Josh Kay: i mean Jaso after Arencibia is absolute lunacy
[Mar 12 2013, 12:23 AM] stlsluggers: yeah give me the C that has a good OBP and wont be catching as much
[Mar 12 2013, 12:23 AM] Jason Collette: and Carlos Quentin at 266 could be quite nice
[Mar 12 2013, 12:23 AM] nymet: quentin more problems with knee today
[Mar 12 2013, 12:23 AM] Josh Kay: Quentin is going to go on the D-L with a strained back suffered during sleep one of these days
[Mar 12 2013, 12:24 AM] Josh Kay: that dude make Grady Sizemore look like an ironman
[Mar 12 2013, 12:24 AM] Paul Sporer: prob reverse that
[Mar 12 2013, 12:24 AM] Jason Collette: I wish they’d trade Quentin to the Rays already
[Mar 12 2013, 12:25 AM] Josh Kay: do the Rays even need more OF? i admit he’d be a good fit for our style but still
[Mar 12 2013, 12:25 AM] Jason Collette: pick 270 – Erasmo Ramirez. Pick 271 Alex Cobb…both to Pouliot. Well done
[Mar 12 2013, 12:25 AM] ascarborough05: Saunders, I’m surprised he didn’t go earlier after WBC
[Mar 12 2013, 12:25 AM] Josh Kay: wonder if Brandon Guyer will amount to anything more than a platoon guy with power
[Mar 12 2013, 12:25 AM] stlsluggers: love those 2
[Mar 12 2013, 12:25 AM] Paul Sporer: Erasmo!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:25 AM] Josh Kay: i kinda like Joe Saunders
[Mar 12 2013, 12:25 AM] stlsluggers: Rays need to trade some HJLee to the Cards for Adams + something.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:26 AM] Josh Kay: dug a bit into his brooks baseball player card
[Mar 12 2013, 12:26 AM] ascarborough05: …Michael.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:26 AM] stlsluggers: as Jason cuts his wrists
[Mar 12 2013, 12:26 AM] Josh Kay: liked what i saw
[Mar 12 2013, 12:26 AM] Paul Sporer: first time anyone’s ever said that
[Mar 12 2013, 12:26 AM] Tim Heaney: Cobb!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:26 AM] Tim Heaney: “Cutter” Cobb
[Mar 12 2013, 12:26 AM] stlsluggers: Jason if you would run through a pane of glass for Reynolds, how many panes for JSaunders?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:26 AM] Jason Collette: time to pimp my Cobb piece from today: http://theprocessreport.wordpress.com/2013/03/11/cobb-toying-with-cutter/
[Mar 12 2013, 12:26 AM] Josh Kay: i know right? when i was asked to do a write-up on the Saunders signing , i assumed i would be slamming Saunders
[Mar 12 2013, 12:27 AM] Josh Kay: but i couldn’t help myself from doing some digging at brooks baseball
[Mar 12 2013, 12:27 AM] Jason Collette: Leonys Martin 269, Ludwick 268, like these buys
[Mar 12 2013, 12:28 AM] Josh Kay: improved curve for saunders, decreased fastball usage, really helping him alot
[Mar 12 2013, 12:28 AM] Josh Kay: a lot*
[Mar 12 2013, 12:29 AM] Jason Collette: Saunders is junk..I’d pay -$1 for him in an auction
[Mar 12 2013, 12:29 AM] Paul Sporer: -$2
[Mar 12 2013, 12:29 AM] stlsluggers: still would rather have roster spot
[Mar 12 2013, 12:29 AM] Jason Collette: Ranch goes 272….Keppinger continues to go too late for a starting 3B w/ multipositional eligiblity
[Mar 12 2013, 12:29 AM] Paul Sporer: RANCH!!!!!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:29 AM] Jason Collette: -$3
[Mar 12 2013, 12:30 AM] Josh Kay: whiff/swing rated increased by a full 15% for Saunders last year
[Mar 12 2013, 12:30 AM] Josh Kay: on the curveball
[Mar 12 2013, 12:30 AM] Jason Collette: Shaun Marcum & his 140 IP go at 284. Love the skills, hate his medicals
[Mar 12 2013, 12:31 AM] Josh Kay: month he posted 7.96 K/9 and 2.49 BB/9 (understanding K% and BB% are the better stats but i dont have that info) was July.. ironically it was his best month for his curveball, and one where he used it the most
[Mar 12 2013, 12:31 AM] Josh Kay: continued to use it a lot down the stretch and saw some increased success, which allowed him to post that insane line he had vs. lefties
[Mar 12 2013, 12:32 AM] Tim Heaney: Ranch!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:32 AM] Paul Sporer: good news is you should be able to get him for all of your rosters
[Mar 12 2013, 12:32 AM] Josh Kay: i’m only speculating on him in AL-Only formats
[Mar 12 2013, 12:32 AM] Jason Collette: I’ll take Roberto Hernandez over Joe Saunders
[Mar 12 2013, 12:32 AM] Paul Sporer: he’ll post some decent starts in SEA, but they’ll never be on my roster
[Mar 12 2013, 12:33 AM] Josh Kay: yeah, in my mind, my findings elevated him to a worthy spot starter in mixed leagues and rosterable in Al-Only
[Mar 12 2013, 12:33 AM] Jason Collette: Brandon Belt 283..Billy Hamilton 287, Zunino 288, Taveras 289, Maxwell 290. Pretty toys & reclamation project time
[Mar 12 2013, 12:33 AM] Josh Kay: i’ll definitely throw him out there against Houston and teams with lots of lefties
[Mar 12 2013, 12:34 AM] stlsluggers: might not want him v. maxwell/carter from the Stros
[Mar 12 2013, 12:34 AM] Josh Kay: maxwell intriguing post hype guy, not buying yet, great point on Chris Carter of course though
[Mar 12 2013, 12:34 AM] Tim Heaney: Belt!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:35 AM] Mike Gianella: Sorry I missed most of the fun. Someone on the left coast needed something by 5 pm PDT.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:35 AM] Josh Kay: Mike!!!!!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:35 AM] Paul Sporer: MIKE!!!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:35 AM] Josh Kay: lol Sprer
[Mar 12 2013, 12:36 AM] Josh Kay: sporer
[Mar 12 2013, 12:36 AM] Tim Heaney: Miiiiiiiiiiiike
[Mar 12 2013, 12:36 AM] Jason Collette: just took Kazmir in the 32nd round of a dynasty draft (keep 28)…never combine a Rays & a Mets fan on the same team, right Bret?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:36 AM] Mike Gianella: Hey guys.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:37 AM] Mike Gianella: Much easier sitting on here on this side nitpicking what everyone else is doing wrong 🙂
[Mar 12 2013, 12:37 AM] Jason Collette: Marc Melancon pick 309…skills. Smyly finally goes at 311
[Mar 12 2013, 12:37 AM] bretsayre: haha, absolutely
[Mar 12 2013, 12:37 AM] bretsayre: and now i’m getting IMs that at least three other owners were about to pop Kazmir next
[Mar 12 2013, 12:38 AM] Mike Gianella: What is this, a BP chat room with Heaney’s ugly mug thrown in for good measure?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:38 AM] Tim Heaney: “zombie” mug, at least that’s what I’m saying
[Mar 12 2013, 12:38 AM] Jason Collette: HELL YES BRET
[Mar 12 2013, 12:38 AM] Josh Kay: really enjoyed your appearance on the Towers of Power podcast mike
[Mar 12 2013, 12:38 AM] Josh Kay: good stuff, i’m an auction guy as well
[Mar 12 2013, 12:38 AM] bretsayre: so we’re officially ahead of the scott kazmir curve
[Mar 12 2013, 12:39 AM] Mike Gianella: Thanks Josh.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:39 AM] Paul Sporer: i thought it sucked
[Mar 12 2013, 12:39 AM] Paul Sporer: the host at least
[Mar 12 2013, 12:39 AM] Mike Gianella: haha
[Mar 12 2013, 12:40 AM] Paul Sporer: dude is a diiiiick
[Mar 12 2013, 12:40 AM] bretsayre: i heard that the guest at the end was a total loser too
[Mar 12 2013, 12:40 AM] Paul Sporer: oh def
[Mar 12 2013, 12:40 AM] Paul Sporer: #theworst
[Mar 12 2013, 12:40 AM] Josh Kay: self depricating humor lol
[Mar 12 2013, 12:40 AM] Mike Gianella: someone offered me a trade in CBS that i might have to do. danks and s. smith for guti and porcello.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:41 AM] Jason Collette: I’d take Side B of that
[Mar 12 2013, 12:41 AM] Josh Kay: id do that unless your league does xFIP instead of ERA ;_0
[Mar 12 2013, 12:41 AM] Josh Kay: 🙂
[Mar 12 2013, 12:42 AM] Mike Gianella: you like the guti side better jason?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:42 AM] Jason Collette: Chris Tillman pick 327…Matt Carpenter at 326 could be tasy. I like Nova at 322 more than Liriano at 310 or Cole at 306
[Mar 12 2013, 12:42 AM] Josh Kay: im a Danks apologist
[Mar 12 2013, 12:42 AM] Jason Collette: if Guti is hitting leadoff, yea
[Mar 12 2013, 12:42 AM] Mike Gianella: think he gets 500 ABs?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:43 AM] Tim Heaney: Nova!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:43 AM] Jason Collette: I do – I like him to get somewhat back to where he was 2 yrs ago
[Mar 12 2013, 12:44 AM] Mike Gianella: #beerstatus Yards ESA.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:44 AM] Tim Heaney: Nova and Teheran b2b … love those.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:44 AM] Tim Heaney: reverse them for actual order, but, yeah
[Mar 12 2013, 12:44 AM] bretsayre: i’d worry they’re going to shift saunders into CF against too many RHP to accommodate the legions of corner guys they have
[Mar 12 2013, 12:44 AM] Tim Heaney: I’m going beer-free until Friday night
[Mar 12 2013, 12:44 AM] Josh Kay: any of ya’ll planning a write-up on the change in ADP and draft slot based on OBP?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:44 AM] Tim Heaney: We’ll have to do a beer status next Saturday night, OK, Mike?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:45 AM] Josh Kay: btw, Jason, where do you get the soft stuff hard stuff splits? i have a sub to BP, haven’t found that stuff.. unless im missing something
[Mar 12 2013, 12:45 AM] Mike Gianella: sure. you in town friday or not until saturday?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:45 AM] Tim Heaney: Friday night but was thinking at the Tout party
[Mar 12 2013, 12:45 AM] Jason Collette: Someone give McLeod my DNA? He has rostered more Rays than I ever have in a draft
[Mar 12 2013, 12:45 AM] Jason Collette: I haven’t, Josh
[Mar 12 2013, 12:46 AM] Josh Kay: ?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:46 AM] Jason Collette: I haven’t looked at hard/soft splits
[Mar 12 2013, 12:46 AM] Josh Kay: the splits you reference on the podcast
[Mar 12 2013, 12:46 AM] Mike Gianella: Gotta run in a few. Doing Chris McBrien’s pod tonight.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:46 AM] Jason Collette: Friday night in NYC, I have an all-day event and get done around 7p
[Mar 12 2013, 12:46 AM] Jason Collette: for what player?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:46 AM] Josh Kay: a lot of that actually in the OF episode
[Mar 12 2013, 12:46 AM] Josh Kay: Zobrist..
[Mar 12 2013, 12:46 AM] Josh Kay: umm,
[Mar 12 2013, 12:46 AM] Josh Kay: Phillips
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Josh Kay: Brandon
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Jason Collette: I don’t recall talking about hard/soft hit stuff with him
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Paul Sporer: hard
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Paul Sporer: soft
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Josh Kay: not hard hit balls
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Jason Collette: he makes me soft
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Tim Heaney: Paul’s mind … gutter
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Josh Kay: like vs splitters fastball cutters
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Josh Kay: and changeups sliders
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Josh Kay: etc
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Paul Sporer: that’s game-watchin’
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Josh Kay: you guys referenced OPS
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Jason Collette: that’s on his player card at BP
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Paul Sporer: and then we just make up the OPS
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Josh Kay: okay, see i thought i was missing something
[Mar 12 2013, 12:47 AM] Paul Sporer: and ppl buy it
[Mar 12 2013, 12:48 AM] Jason Collette: Paul & I also have access to some TruMedia data through our relationship with ESPN blog network
[Mar 12 2013, 12:48 AM] Josh Kay: yeah i have a BP sub, don’t know how i missed that
[Mar 12 2013, 12:48 AM] Josh Kay: oh ok
[Mar 12 2013, 12:48 AM] Jason Collette: that’s probably where we have it from
[Mar 12 2013, 12:48 AM] Josh Kay: gotcha thx
[Mar 12 2013, 12:48 AM] ascarborough05: somewhat random question, but people of the public can sit in on tout draft right?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:49 AM] Paul Sporer: AMANDA!!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:49 AM] Mike Gianella: all right guys, see you later on the twitter.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:49 AM] Paul Sporer: peace mik
[Mar 12 2013, 12:49 AM] Tim Heaney: See ya, Mike, say hi to the hosers for me
[Mar 12 2013, 12:49 AM] Paul Sporer: e
[Mar 12 2013, 12:49 AM] bretsayre: later mike
[Mar 12 2013, 12:50 AM] Jason Collette: Juan Pierre pick 343…always a profitable reserve pick
[Mar 12 2013, 12:50 AM] Tim Heaney: Amanda – if Sirius has the same setup as last year, there’s some seating outside the horseshoe. Not sure if it’ll be the same this year.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:50 AM] Tim Heaney: Damn.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:50 AM] Jason Collette: that’s the plan I heard, Tim
[Mar 12 2013, 12:51 AM] Tim Heaney: cool
[Mar 12 2013, 12:51 AM] Josh Kay: Brett Gardner had a massive value increase in this draft right? ( i would assume / hope)
[Mar 12 2013, 12:51 AM] Josh Kay: based on walk rate of course
[Mar 12 2013, 12:51 AM] Jason Collette: Last year, Jesse Eisenberg hung out in the lobby to watch the auction
[Mar 12 2013, 12:51 AM] Paul Sporer: in a robe
[Mar 12 2013, 12:51 AM] Paul Sporer: while coding
[Mar 12 2013, 12:52 AM] Jason Collette: Mark Rogers pick 356 is a nice reserve grab as is Ricky Romero at 355. 2 guys I’m on
[Mar 12 2013, 12:52 AM] ascarborough05: I’ll just walk in and steal a seat, Berry won’t mind drafting standing up I’m sure.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:52 AM] Paul Sporer: RR Cool J!
[Mar 12 2013, 12:52 AM] Tim Heaney: Rick-Ro’ed
[Mar 12 2013, 12:53 AM] Jason Collette: You could probably draft for Berry. AFter he takes E5, Colon, and Konerko, he’s done
[Mar 12 2013, 12:53 AM] Josh Kay: lol
[Mar 12 2013, 12:53 AM] Josh Kay: and Carlos Gomez
[Mar 12 2013, 12:53 AM] Tim Heaney: nice
[Mar 12 2013, 12:53 AM] Jason Collette: btw, tune into the Fantasy Focus tomorrow as I’m taking over his spot on the show for a day
[Mar 12 2013, 12:53 AM] stlsluggers: yeah its a sad year with no Liriano for him
[Mar 12 2013, 12:53 AM] Paul Sporer: he’ll be screwed taking gomez in an AL only
[Mar 12 2013, 12:53 AM] Josh Kay: lmao,
[Mar 12 2013, 12:53 AM] Paul Sporer: ya bc i never heard your gd voice
[Mar 12 2013, 12:53 AM] Tim Heaney: What, it’s not 80s Milwaukee?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:53 AM] Paul Sporer: bring some peanuts, j 🙂
[Mar 12 2013, 12:54 AM] Jason Collette: I hear your voice in my sleep
[Mar 12 2013, 12:54 AM] Josh Kay: oh so the fantasy focus will be worth listening to
[Mar 12 2013, 12:54 AM] Josh Kay: nice
[Mar 12 2013, 12:54 AM] Josh Kay: maybe some actual analysis will be there
[Mar 12 2013, 12:54 AM] Jason Collette: I listen to the FF daily….
[Mar 12 2013, 12:54 AM] Paul Sporer: crush that show on the reg
[Mar 12 2013, 12:54 AM] Paul Sporer: love those two
[Mar 12 2013, 12:55 AM] stlsluggers: yeah they get a bad rap
[Mar 12 2013, 12:55 AM] ascarborough05: my life is not complete without FF
[Mar 12 2013, 12:55 AM] Josh Kay: id enjoy that show a lot more if they werent forced to cater to the masses that play 10 team mixed leagues
[Mar 12 2013, 12:55 AM] Jason Collette: yep – I think those guys are both on the selection committee for owner applications because Tout gets so many inquiries these days
[Mar 12 2013, 12:56 AM] stlsluggers: yeah well 10mix is just what sells
[Mar 12 2013, 12:56 AM] Jason Collette: 10 team mixed is a gateway drug…it got my brothers to play
[Mar 12 2013, 12:56 AM] Paul Sporer: plus it’s overstated
[Mar 12 2013, 12:56 AM] stlsluggers: if BP ran fantasy and they were all 10mix, guess what Towers of Power would be talking about?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:56 AM] Josh Kay: honestly not trying to suck-up but i just much prefer the perfectly balanced BP shows.. the old up and in podcast and Jason and Paul’s pod…
[Mar 12 2013, 12:56 AM] stlsluggers: and FF talks deep leagues as well
[Mar 12 2013, 12:56 AM] Paul Sporer: if you charted every guy they talked about, it wouldn’t just be the verlanders and harpers
[Mar 12 2013, 12:56 AM] Josh Kay: i enjoy the balance between humor (non baseball talk) and analysis
[Mar 12 2013, 12:57 AM] Josh Kay: i love Ravitz,
[Mar 12 2013, 12:57 AM] Jason Collette: easier to be balanced in a longform podcast. Those guys have less than an hour to put it all together. After sitting in studio live, it’s harder than it looks
[Mar 12 2013, 12:57 AM] Josh Kay: Berry… ehh…
[Mar 12 2013, 12:57 AM] Josh Kay: thats a good point Jason
[Mar 12 2013, 12:57 AM] Josh Kay: even more of a reason i wish there was more analysis.. but i suppose because it’s a daily show…
[Mar 12 2013, 12:57 AM] Jason Collette: Rajai Davis pick 377….Davis and Pierre always go in the reserves, always turn a profit. Awlays
[Mar 12 2013, 12:58 AM] Paul Sporer: you who sucks?
[Mar 12 2013, 12:58 AM] stlsluggers: yeah i like their chemistry and i dont mind the drops at all
[Mar 12 2013, 12:58 AM] ascarborough05: Obviously they are doing something right, or they wouldn’t have the pod.
[Mar 12 2013, 12:58 AM] Josh Kay: of course ,
[Mar 12 2013, 12:58 AM] Tim Heaney: more of a macro focus in an hour
[Mar 12 2013, 12:58 AM] Paul Sporer: that joel henard guy
[Mar 12 2013, 12:58 AM] Paul Sporer: and scott gilroy
[Mar 12 2013, 12:58 AM] Paul Sporer: and tim heaney
[Mar 12 2013, 12:58 AM] Tim Heaney: dingdingding
[Mar 12 2013, 12:58 AM] Paul Sporer: and bret sayre
[Mar 12 2013, 12:58 AM] Paul Sporer: loserfaces, all of em
[Mar 12 2013, 12:59 AM] Josh Kay: personally my favorite podcasts are ones when they rail on Brett Jackson lol
[Mar 12 2013, 12:59 AM] Jason Collette: those were some good shows
[Mar 12 2013, 1:00 AM] Jason Collette: Mike Olt pick 380 and Lucas Duda at 366 are nice late power plays
[Mar 12 2013, 1:00 AM] Jason Collette: and both went after A-Rod??
[Mar 12 2013, 1:00 AM] Paul Sporer: Luke Astuta
[Mar 12 2013, 1:01 AM] bretsayre: <----- loserface [Mar 12 2013, 1:01 AM] Paul Sporer: just droppin' fact b-sayre [Mar 12 2013, 1:01 AM] Paul Sporer: sorry dog [Mar 12 2013, 1:01 AM] bretsayre: ha [Mar 12 2013, 1:01 AM] Josh Kay: FP911 pod with Rich Wilson Tim McLeod and Tony C and Markus P is excellent too i think [Mar 12 2013, 1:04 AM] Jason Collette: Eno Sarris drafted Delmon Young. A pox on his fantasy house [Mar 12 2013, 1:05 AM] sixerfan2012: did dom brown get picked yet? [Mar 12 2013, 1:05 AM] Josh Kay: Delmon Young.. more inside the park HR's allowed? or more HR's? [Mar 12 2013, 1:05 AM] Joel Henard: Off topic- Jason you watching Raw as well? [Mar 12 2013, 1:05 AM] Jason Collette: yea, Dom Brown went. Joel - not yet. What's happened so far? Are my DX boys back on? [Mar 12 2013, 1:05 AM] Joel Henard: Yep, are recording it [Mar 12 2013, 1:05 AM] sixerfan2012: lesnar jumped the new age outlaws [Mar 12 2013, 1:06 AM] Jason Collette: Don't judge me folks, but I am fully back into watching WWE [Mar 12 2013, 1:06 AM] Josh Kay: we all have our flaws [Mar 12 2013, 1:06 AM] toutwars: Dom Brown went 20.13 [Mar 12 2013, 1:06 AM] sixerfan2012: thanks [Mar 12 2013, 1:06 AM] Jason Collette: damn, I'll have to watch the replay on Hulu+ tomorrow. New Age Outlaws so awesome. Billy Gunn is from this area - see him around here from time to time [Mar 12 2013, 1:06 AM] Joel Henard: I have been trying to put something together for you guys jason on my off time [Mar 12 2013, 1:06 AM] Joel Henard: It just does not sound good yet.. but I will get [Mar 12 2013, 1:07 AM] Jason Collette: Is this the year Nolen Reimold stays healthy? He just went pick 393 and he always teases me [Mar 12 2013, 1:07 AM] Jason Collette: awesome, I was going to ask you for something [Mar 12 2013, 1:07 AM] Jason Collette: OH YOU DIDN'T KNOW? [Mar 12 2013, 1:07 AM] Joel Henard: very close [Mar 12 2013, 1:07 AM] Paul Sporer: i'm 6'5 and this shiz is goin' over my head [Mar 12 2013, 1:07 AM] Joel Henard: Ok back to the draft [Mar 12 2013, 1:08 AM] Paul Sporer: are y'all in fantasy wwe? [Mar 12 2013, 1:08 AM] Paul Sporer: i draft andre the giant 1.1 [Mar 12 2013, 1:08 AM] Jason Collette: Paul - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mysAiGzfris [Mar 12 2013, 1:08 AM] Jason Collette: David Phelps goes 399 for those wondering while Wily Peralta at 397 is sweet to Podhorzer [Mar 12 2013, 1:09 AM] Joel Henard: Paul- NO WWE Fantasy for me [Mar 12 2013, 1:09 AM] Tim Heaney: I'm back, as well, Jason [Mar 12 2013, 1:09 AM] Tim Heaney: a) usually do when WM approaches b) It's been quite good lately. [Mar 12 2013, 1:10 AM] Jason Collette: I was so stoked with this last week http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85b5aYDeF7s [Mar 12 2013, 1:10 AM] Tim Heaney: The Fameasser returns! [Mar 12 2013, 1:10 AM] Jason Collette: Devin Mesoraco at 403, Yunel Escobar at 405 -- I love these late buys [Mar 12 2013, 1:11 AM] Jason Collette: and Escobar is Mr. Irrelevant. 405 picks in just under 2.5 hours! [Mar 12 2013, 1:12 AM] Josh Kay: thanks for doing this Jason [Mar 12 2013, 1:12 AM] Josh Kay: really enjoyed it [Mar 12 2013, 1:12 AM] Tim Heaney: Yeah, good stuff [Mar 12 2013, 1:12 AM] toutwars: Fantastic boys. Excellent work Jason! Thank you. [Mar 12 2013, 1:13 AM] Joel Henard: With the pop function its great I can watch draft and chat.. Great job [Mar 12 2013, 1:13 AM] Jason Collette: thanks all for participating. Now it's time to write my BP article for tomorrow 🙂 [Mar 12 2013, 1:13 AM] Paul Sporer: peace out gangsters [Mar 12 2013, 1:14 AM] Tim Heaney: later, folks